Comments on: Review: Adobe Photoshop goes online with Photoshop Express

By: John Watson

John Watson — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:54:22 +0000

Adobe has revised their terms to address these issues. The new terms go into effect April 10, 2008.

By: John Watson

John Watson — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 03:01:03 +0000

Apparently Adobe has heard plenty of complaining about this issue. They’ve added an FAQ to say they’re updating the terms.

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:00:37 +0000

for photos (and other media) submitted to other services than yahoo groups yahoo’s tos say that the license granted only includes use etc “solely for the purpose for which such Content was submitted or made available.” (yahoo tos 9. b.)

that’s by far not what is granted to adobe when accepting their tos (”… and to incorporate such Content into other Materials or works in any format or medium now known or later developed.”, end of 8. a.)

By: John Watson

John Watson — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:37:29 +0000

You’re right, Flickr specifically excludes photos and videos from their clause (I updated my comment). It’s in the Yahoo terms which the Flickr terms are a supplement to.

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:35:10 +0000

just had a look at flickr’s tos but couldn’t find any clause similar to this one…

Regarding “I’m pretty confident they’re not going to take my photos and sell prints to people without my permission.” At least you allow them to do so by accepting those terms…

By: John Watson

John Watson — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:30:36 +0000

Yah, that seems bad. I suppose it’s because they’re a commercial service and they need relicensing rights in order to put your photos in public galleries and on the Express home page. The clause doesn’t affect you if you don’t share your photos in a public Gallery. It’d be nice if they were more up front about it though. Flickr has a similar clause but specifically excludes photos. I’m no lawyer so I don’t understand why one service needs it and the other doesn’t. Different lawyers.

It comes down to how much you trust Adobe, I guess. I’m pretty confident they’re not going to take my photos and sell prints to people without my permission.

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:22:31 +0000

looks great… but have you read this:

Taken from “Adobe Photoshop Express - General Terms” (https://www.photoshop.com/express/terms.html)

” [...]
8. Use of Your Content.

a. Adobe does not claim ownership of Your Content. However, with respect to Your Content that you submit or make available for inclusion on publicly accessible areas of the Services, you grant Adobe a worldwide, royalty-free, nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, and fully sublicensable license to use, distribute, derive revenue or other remuneration from, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content (in whole or in part) and to incorporate such Content into other Materials or works in any format or medium now known or later developed.

b. [...]“